My name is Chinmaya Sahu. I am a Vitreo-Retina
consultant at L.V Prasad Eye Institute, Hyderabad. I had appeared for
the FRCS Part 3 in New Delhi and passed. I wanted to share my
experience with others.
Day 1
Ophthalmic surgery
Examiner 1 (Indian male)
- A patient for whom you have done Cataract
surgery, comes to you a month later with IOP of 32 mm Hg.
- What are the possible causes of raised IOP?
Steroid induced
glaucoma, Secondary to post operative inflammation, Glaucoma missed in
the pre operative phase (wanted this)
- What is the mechanism of steroid induced
glaucoma?
Secondary to
deposition of Glycosaminoglycans in the trabecular meshwork.
(Happy,
immediately moved to next question)
- How will you manage this patient
Started saying after
evaluating the patient………..stopped me sayin remember you have already
evaluated him in the pre operative phase……….I said will start with
anti glaucoma medications like……………stopped me saying won’t you do
something before that…………I said……..Will stop the steroids if he is
still using them
- What are the causes of flat Anterior chamber
following Glaucoma surgery?
Mentioned about bleb
leakage and scleral flap leakage. Examiner went into details of how to
differentiate between the two and how to manage them.
Then asked me what are
the other causes. I mentioned with raised IOP, pupillary block
glaucoma, malignant glaucoma and hemorrhagic choroidal detachment
Went into management of
Choroidal detachment. Mentioned topical and oral steroids. Kept
looking at me……..Then I said if IOP is very high or retino retinal
adhesion is occurring, will consider choroidal drainage (happy)
Examiner 2 (UK, female)
- Gave me a scenario of a 60 year old person
coming to you with a lower lid mass. Mostly Basal cell carcinoma.
- What are the clinical findings suggestive of
Basal cell carcinoma?
- What are the H/P findings?
- How will you manage it? (Went into details
with the surgical techniques and reconstruction methods)
- (Happy till now) She asked me, If the tumour
was medially and involving the Nasolacrimal duct, how will you
manage? (Said will excise the tumour and do a DCT…….but also told
her that I wasn’t sure……..She said that’s fine
- Showed me a picture of an Epibulbar dermoid
and asked me the diagnosis
I said, this is an
Epibulbar dermoid
- How will you manage this patient……….. I
described in details…….
- What are the sites of dermoid cysts in the
eye?
- What will you be worried of when you are doing
an excision of a dermoid which is in the superotemporal part of the
orbit? (I said, rupture of cyst leading to severe inflammatory
reaction,,,,,, she said fine,,,,,,,,what else (she wanted intra
cranial extension).
Pathology
Examiner 1
Gave me a situation of a 4 month boy
presenting with a mass in the superotemporal
part of the orbit……What are your
differentials?
a.
Dermoid, dacryops, hemangioma………then was at a loss of words, when he
said
why can’t you
think of a common thing like a chalazion?
b.
Went into details of management of Capillary hemangioma.
Examiner 2
Showed me a fundus picture with hyperemic
disc and what looked like an area of
Retinitis…….I started describing, when I
said Retinits, she asked me am I sure??
I looked carefully again. I realized that
the lesion was out of focus and told her that it
could possibly be in the pre retinal area,
she became happy, said that’s right, so what
do you thing it is?
I said most likely it is Fungal infections.
She then went into details of types of fungi,
ocular affection and management of Fungal
endophthalmitis
General medicine and NeuroOphthalmology
Examiner 1 (UK, male)
1.Gave me a scenario. There is a patient who has
come to you with sudden onset ptosis and oculomotor nerve palsy. What
is the most important thing you will rule out………….I said Aneurysm. He
asked me where is the site. I said in the area near the posterior
communicating artery. He then asked me the importance of papillary
examination.
2. He asked me how will you examine for the
action of superior oblique in
this patient? I said I will assess intorsion? How
will you do that?
I answered 1. On S/L identify a prominent vessel
and then check for the movement. On fundus
examination assess the relation of the fovea to the disc. (Seemed
happy)
3. He
showed me a clinical photograph of the Optic disc. One eye looked
normal and the other eye disc looked paler. I started describing the
abnormal looking disc (Did not have a clue, as the disc was looking
slightly pale sectorally was thinking along the lines of Resolved
NAION. He said I will give a clue, this patient has this condition
since childhood. I hesitatingly answered, Optic disc hypoplasia. He
immediately approved (though I wasn’t convinced myself). He asked me
regarding the systemic associations. I answered DeMorisier’s syndrome,
agenesis of Corpus Callosum………..He kept waiting……..Then said, Won’t
any gland be affected. I said yes, Pituitary gland.
4. Gave me another scenario…………A 50 year old male
patient comes to you with unilateral severe headache……………..What are
your differentials………..I started with In order of
severity………..Temporal arteritis. Was very displeased. Asked me, will
you get Temporal arteritis in a 50 year old patient? I said generally
is seen after 60 years age, though can be seen earlier…………….He said
what else? Something more common……..I said uncorrected Refractive
error……….Again was unhappy……….Will you get a unilateral headache in
uncorrected refractive error? By this time I was feeling flustered,
the examiner was very aggressive …………He said some structure around the
eye that can cause headache?? I said sinusitis………….Satisfied. Asked
how will you manage? Answered…………What are other causes…………I said
Migraine, Trigeminal neuralgia………….Asked me how will you manage
trigeminal neuralgia? I said Medically with drugs like Carbamazepine,
injection of alcohol in the region of the ganglion……….He asked any
other………..I said ……….Not aware of any other way.
(Had a very bad feeling after this Viva, had
started well but midway started going downhill!)
Examiner 2 (Indian, male)
1. Indian examiner, grim faced. Gives a scenario.
You are in your OPD. Sister comes to you and says a patient in the
waiting area is complaining of chest pain, what will you do?? I said,
will shout the Emergency code prevailing in our hospital so that the
Emergency response team can arrive, meanwhile I will start rushing to
the site……….He said, the patient is stable and conscious, so what will
go across your mind?
I said, I will think of the possible causes and
started giving the differentials saying will rule out the life
threatening causes like Myocardial infarction, Aortic aneurysm
rupture, Pulmonary embolism, Tension Pneumothorax…………He asks……..How do
you think the patient will be sitting…………(Didn’t understand the
question) I said he will be clutching his chest and bending
forward………………He said fine, now what will you do…………I said, I will
enquire regarding the history and based on the history……….will ask for
the ECG machine…………He said before that………I said will check the BP and
pulse…………(Satisfied) He asked me the different type of pulse that I am
likely to encounter………………….Then he asked me what position will you
want to give the patient…………I started saying depending on the
situation…………If the patient was also breathless and possibility of
heart failure was present………….will give propped up position…………..if
signs of patient going into shock were present….will give leg raise
position…………How will you manage if this is MI? I started with the
management, when I mentioned IV Morphine………He appeared
startled………….Asked me do you know what is the side effect…….I said
there can be a sudden drop of blood pressure………..He smiled, then said,
so do you want to give IV morphine………..I fumbled (At this point, he
intervened and moved to the next question)
2. Another scenario. Patient is at the FFA table
and collapses, the minute dye is injected…….What are your
differentials…………..I said Anaphylactic reaction, Hypoglycemia,
Syncope………..What is the definition of syncope? What is TIA?
What are the signs of Anaphylactic reaction? How
will you manage? I started answering. He heard me out………..then smiled
and said Thank you
3. Asked me regarding the ocular manifestations
of Rheumatoid arthritis.
(Heaved a sigh of relief, the Emergency medicine
viva had gone off better than expected)
Ophthalmic medicine
Examiner 1 (Indian male)
1. Showed me a fundus photograph with the disc in
focus………..NVD was present but the rest of the Retina was not seen. So,
described it…………..Then gave the possible causes……….Examiner kept
smiling, as he was not asking any question…………I started with the
management in a systematic manner, right from examination to
investigation…………………(I am a Vitreo-Retinal surgeon, so this part was
really cool) He seemed impressed and did not intervene………..I went on
with management…….Then I started with the Pan Retinal
Photocoagulation………..At this point, he asked me what will be your
parameters……….I said it depends on the system……If it is the Zeiss
………….If it is PASCAL………….Then he asked what will you tell the patient
about the possible side effects……………Explained in detail………(Examiner
was very happy and realized that retina is my forte, so moved to
Glaucoma
2. Asked me, how will you manage a young patient
who walks into your OPD and on recording his IOP is found to be
high………..
I said, will recheck the IOP, examine the IOP of
the other eye…………..On fundus examination look out for the disc changes
of Glaucoma (explained in details)………Then will ask for Central corneal
thickness and Automated perimetry……..Smiled and said, If I said his
IOP is 23 and CCT is 580, what will be his corrected IOP……………I said
for every 16 microns change in thickness, a 1 mm hg correction is
required………..So assuming 520 micron as the average corneal
thickness………….his corrected IOP should be around 19 mm Hg…………He was
happy…………Said very good…………..
Examiner 2 (UK female)
1. Showed me again a Disc photograph with a
whitish fibrous tissue originating from the disc…….I was stumped……………I
thought, it’s not possible that again they will show me a NVD………..But
ventured with that as my first DD…………she kept a blank face…………I
noticed that there were ILM folds temporal to the disc, so got
distracted and went into possible causes of hypotony and ILM
folds………She said, focus on the disc…………..I was blank………….She said do
you want to give up?? I said no and asked if I could get some idea
about the age of the patient………..She said a 10 year old boy…………….Then
it struck me and I answered Bergmeister’s papillae………….She smiled
2. She then asked me regarding the causes of
sudden painless loss of vision in one eye. I started with CRAO, Optic
neuritis, CRVO, RD…………….and went on……I stopped after I thought I had
exhausted my list……………….she kept looking at me and said what
else……………I was stumped…………I thought I had covered everything, then
finally said Panuveitis………….she was satisfied…………….
Asked me, about the clinical presentation of
Optic neuritis, how to differentiate it from NAION. When, I told about
field defects, she asked me, do I know the reason for altitudinal
defect following NAION? I didn’t know but told about the ONH
circulation……she kept looking………I said I don’t know
correctly……………….Then she asked me about the management of Optic
neuritis………….I started with Oral steroids………..She asked me regarding
the duration of treatment…………I said, I will slowly taper the oral
steroids over 3 months to a dose of 10 mg and then continue at that
dose for at least a year and monitor for response……………….She said what
are the exact ONTT recommendations……….I said this is what I am aware
about………She said do you know of any other studies………..I quickly
mentioned CHAMPS, ETOM, CHAMPION………She asked me about CHAMPS……….I told
her promptly…………Became happy.
Overall, had a mixed feeling at the end of the
viva…………..
Day 2
Anterior segment
Case 1 (UK, Male examiner)
A patient sitting on S/L. I first cleaned my
hands, asked whether I could observe the patient’s external features.
Was asked to proceed to slit lamp examination. I examined the oculars,
adjusted the magnification, started with diffuse examination………….Kept
explaining what I was doing at each step……………patient had microcornea,
iris coloboma……………………..The discussion then went on what further
examination, management (was smooth) Said, will dilate and examine the
lens and fundus. Likely to have Retinochoroidal coloboma……….Based on
refraction, lens status and fundus findings, will decide further
management……(Examiner satisfied)
Case 2 (Indian, male)
Patient appeared to have a Diffue corneal opacity
in the Right eye……….Before I could start examining on the
S/L……….Examiner asked to examine the other eye………I noticed there was a
whitish tuft on the papillary margin inferiorly, presence of pigments
on the anterior surface of the lens………….I found few KP’s on the
endothelium……….So, the examiner asked me……..What do you think you are
dealing with ………….I said, it is a case of resolved uveitis………..Asked
me what else will you like to examine………….I was blank………………The patient
was a 25 year old male………..Examiner said will give you a clue…………The
disease started in childhood…………………………Initially could not put the
pieces together, then it struck, the other was actually a BSK………….I
said, Juvenile RA………..He smiled……..I talked about the
types………..(Examiners seemed happy)
Posterior segment
Case 1 (Nigerian, Male)
Asked me to so s/l biomicroscopy………..I noticed
there were hard exudates macular thickening, and sectoral
photocoagulation scars……….I described and said Moderate NPDR with CSME
with Lasered resolved ITBRVO…………He said are you sure……I said ‘Yes’ I
said I will like to examine the other eye………..Had similar
findings………….He said now do you want to revise the diagnosis………….I
said, I will like to perform Indirect Ophthalmoscopy to scan the other
quadrants for NVE………….I could not find any…………….I said, another
possibility is that the patient has PDR and has undergone 1 sitting of
laser…………He said how will you know for sure, I said, I will like to
FFA………..
Case 2 (UK, Male)
Examine the patient with Indirect Ophthalmoscopy.
Old lady, when I started asked me to be gentle…………….I saw STBRVO
(Resolved)………….I described the findings and said STBRVO……………Does it
look fresh or resolved…………..I said resolved………….Asked me how will I
distinguish………Answered in detail…………Asked me what are the sight
threatening complications…………I said Macular edema, Vitreous hemorrhage
and Glaucoma……..(Examiner happy)
Case 3 (Nigerian, male)
Slit lamp biomicroscopy………….Patient had presence
of Disc pallor, pigment corpuscles, arteriolar attenuation………….I said
I will like to examine the other eye………Had similar findings…………..I
said Retinitis Pigmentosa……..What tests will you like to do? What are
the systemic associations
Examiners appeared happy, said well done!
Ocular motility and Strabismus
Case 1 (UK, Female)
Asked me to examine pupil………….i asked for room
light to be dimmed. Asked another person to throw light with a torch
from distance. Use pencil torch and started moving the torch from one
eye to the other rapidly………Noticed presence of RAPD…….
Examiner asked me to examine the field of the
other eye……………I started………..Asked the patient to occlude the other
eye…………Asked if he could see my entire face……….At this point the
examiner interrupted, would you like to do something……………I realized
that I was not at the same height as the patient………….I said ‘Yes’, I
will like to lower the chair height ………..She smiled……….Then I
continued uninterrupted with my examination……………
She asked me how will you check for central
field…………I showed………..Happy
Case 2 (UK, Female)
Asked to observe the patient from a distance and
described. Noticed that the left eye had Ptosis, frontalis overaction……….I
did ocular motility, there was a widening of the palpebral fissure on
abduction with slight restriction of abduction………….I said, I have 2
differentials…………..1. Aberrant regeneration of the 3 oculomotor nerve
and other is Duane restriction syndrome, however Ptosis more in favour
of the first……(Examiner happy)
Case 3 (Both examiners)
Quickly have a look on S/L biomicroscopy and tell
us the finding, you have exactly 10 secs…………I saw it was Tilted optic
disc with hypoplasia……..(Examiners very happy)
Oculoplastic
He said, you will be given 2 cases and 5 minutes
each, imagine this is your clinic and do what you will normally do.
Case 1 (UK, Male)
Case with bilateral Ptosis. …………..I went about
examining the patient and describing each step………(I wasn’t
interrupted) At the beginning in differentials had mentioned
Involutional and Myasthenia Gravis)………….Ended my examination with
ocular motility………Examiner seemed satisfied. Asked how will you
manage……….Described in details. Examiner satisfied
Case 2 (Saudi, Female)
Bilateral proptosis…….I started examining. Asked
for Hertel’s Luede……..Said to bypass that step………………….Examined for
Thyroid goiter………..Did ocular motility and noticed Lid lag (Described
it) Examiner asked about other signs….Described all signs with name in
details (Examiner very happy) Asked management…………Again started from
beginning in systematic manner. Wasn’t interrupted. When I
finished……………Was told ‘Very good’
The clinical stations went off very well……………….My
hopes revived…………
The results were out in a matter of 4 days. A
pleasant surprise and passing was the icing on the cake.
I hope my experience will help others while
preparing. I felt that there were a lot of questions asking Causes of
headache, sudden visual loss….etc and it seemed that the examiners had
a list of differentials and until all the causes were enlisted, they
kept persisiting………So, my suggestion is that you should revise the
commonest causes of various symptoms and situations in
details…………Also, practice examining as many cases as possible and if
possible keep discussing with a colleague………..
Best of luck for the exam!